Terrapass?

[Mike Harvey]

I just bought carbon offsets for my two cars and a recent flight for a ski trip at terrapass.com. Does anyone have any thoughts about the legitimacy of this concept. I am trying to tell myself I did something good instead of just pacifying my guilt.

[Livingston]

I just bought a motorcycle instead. More fun than paying someone to plant a tree.

You could also drive like this guy.
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feat...permilers.html

I actually do like the idea of terrapass though. But with or without a terrapass: if you drive a Hummer, you're still a fuckin asshole.

-d

[tpalka]

hey Mike, I too think it's a scam. This guy agrees:

http://txfx.net/2006/01/16/the-terrapass-farce/

To make a real difference, ride your bike and buy potatoes from San Luis valley instead of mangoes from Chile

tom.

[sj]

Along the same lines what about wind credits with excel? I was and am still glad I did this but it seems the same. My wifes new hybrid gets here next month so we are making progress there. Also is buying a tdi jetta for 75% of your miles then getting a beater jeep for when you need it good or bad? 3 cars vs 2 but a 50% reduction in co2 emmisions BUT a 3rd car! Makes me nostalgic for the one key days. sj

[Mike Harvey]

To make a real difference, ride your bike and buy potatoes from San Luis valley instead of mangoes from Chile

ok Tom...no shit. What I am trying to ask is given all of the things you should be doing like buying locally and riding your bike is Terrapass also worthy...are these market based solutions going to help or are they just a diversion from the real issue?

Also is buying a tdi jetta for 75% of your miles then getting a beater jeep for when you need it good or bad?

I bought a TDI Jetta a year and half ago and run the Blue Sun B20 in it. I love the car and it is really efficent. I had five people piled in it for dawn patrol misson yesterday on Monarch Pass so I figured we offset some carbon there. My other car however is a Suburban...I know, I know. Two kids, two labs, blah blah, I have the excuses wired. So we do sort of what you are talking about, trying to think about the net efficency of the family with one "good" car for most driving and one horrible vehicle for when we really need it. I am still debating wheather to put that Terrapass "this car is carbon netural" sticker on the Suburban. I would heckle anyone I saw with that message on the back of a Suburban.

[rhm]

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feat...permilers.html

i used to guide rafts in wva with dave bassage. i knew he was all into figuring out how to use a hybrid car to its fullest potential, but this is pretty crazy.

[COUNT]

That's insane! Thanks for the article, rhm.

COUNT

[rhm]

livingston actually posted it first, but when i tried quoting it the link didn't work any more, so i just re posted the link.

[Trout_Bobber]

Poser

[Livingston]

I bet a Dagger CFS would make a great sidecar for my '78 Suzuki!
-d